Handwritten kanji

Handwritten kanji

Postby vyre22607 on Sun Mar 29, 2009 3:53 am

こんいちは、お元気ですか。
That's what it looks like on the computer, but nobody writes with such precision. Can somebody show me what *actual* handwriting looks like?

i.e.. Do you know anbody, who writes their *a* or *g* like this?
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Re: Handwritten kanji

Postby rljapan on Sun Mar 29, 2009 10:59 pm

Konnichiwa!

You are entirely correct in saying that "computer written Kanji" is extremely clean and precise while the "Actual written Kanji" by Real people - is perhaps not so readable.

Just like everybody writes differently in English (some are readable / some are not) it is the same with Japanese writing. :shock:
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Re: Handwritten kanji

Postby DemonicDerek on Wed Apr 01, 2009 2:40 am

Which the ironic thing of this all is that the roman character set (which is my native character set) is my crappiest writing ever... The only thing that can really offset that is that I type 70-80 (or more) WPM.

The irony of it is that my Hiragana and Kanji... look pretty much like they were typed on computer... which makes me seriously wonder "WTF!?!".

So yeah... I'm weird like that.

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Re: Handwritten kanji

Postby rljapan on Wed Apr 01, 2009 3:12 am

Derek-san

Perhaps you're better off in Japan then!! I think that many Japanese people (including myself) can have unreadable handwriting when writing fast. Sometimes, you can't even read your own handwriting!!

I'm glad to hear your Hiragana and Kanji are as accurate and clean as those typed on the computer! I'm sure that no-one will have a problem reading your writing in Japanese.

Keep it up! Gambatte ne! :D
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Re: Handwritten kanji

Postby DemonicDerek on Wed Apr 01, 2009 4:10 am

rljapan wrote:Perhaps you're better off in Japan then!!


With some of the cultural "OK" vs. "NOT OK" things I see in the US I can pretty much say I think that on a daily basis... (Argh... it makes no sense!!!)

Speaking of being better off in japan...

At one point I was wondering if there would be a more accurate or logical way to translate one's name into Japanese. So based purely off of speculation I did this:

...take the actual meaning of your english name and translate that into japanese...

For example, my name is Derek Fuerstenberg.

Derek means Prince in some weird language (a baby naming book said it... it listed the origin and etc. but I forgot it.)

Anyways, so then you could take the closest japanese word that isn't borrowed... which on some sites they tell me that Leader or sousui would be said word.

My last name is german for prince mountain (Couldn't my names been less arrogant sounding Mom and Dad?).

Thus I'm Prince of Prince Mountain

or (my guess/speculation):

sousui no yama
総帥の山
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Re: Handwritten kanji

Postby rljapan on Wed Apr 01, 2009 8:00 pm

Dear "Prince of Prince Mountain"

What a spectacular name!! :D

I would say that a better and more common way to say "Prince" is Ōji or the name kids usually use: Ōji-sama

:wink: So, your name would be: Ōji-Yama no Ōji-sama or Ōji-San no Ōji-sama (**San is a suffix which means "mountain" - like Fuji-San "Mt.Fuji")
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Re: Handwritten kanji

Postby DemonicDerek on Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:36 am

rljapan wrote:Dear "Prince of Prince Mountain"

What a spectacular name!! :D

I would say that a better and more common way to say "Prince" is Ōji or the name kids usually use: Ōji-sama

:wink: So, your name would be: Ōji-Yama no Ōji-sama or Ōji-San no Ōji-sama (**San is a suffix which means "mountain" - like Fuji-San "Mt.Fuji")


xD :lol: *thinks* "Oh great, now I'm gonna be called Prince of Prince Mountain on the forums" */thinks*

However... doesn't the sama and or san in the name make it sound arrogant?...

As I remember in the audio lessons they said "Don't put san or sama in front of your own name when introducing yourself"

Domo,

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Re: Handwritten kanji

Postby rljapan on Thu Apr 02, 2009 1:30 am

Ah! yes... :!:
well, if you're going to refer to yourself by this name, then you can say:

:idea: Ōji-Yama no Ōji or Ōji-San no Ōji
The SAN in the second one refers to "mountain" and not the polite ending when addressing someone above you.
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Re: Handwritten kanji

Postby DemonicDerek on Fri Apr 03, 2009 6:52 am

rljapan wrote:Ah! yes... :!:
well, if you're going to refer to yourself by this name, then you can say:

:idea: Ōji-Yama no Ōji or Ōji-San no Ōji
The SAN in the second one refers to "mountain" and not the polite ending when addressing someone above you.


If anything I'd probably take Oji-Yama no Oji so as to prevent confusion...

I got that San is a reference to mountain and/or the polite reference... just I was thinking about that one person who you meet who misinterprets everything you say into the worst case scenario of your wording...

Thinking about how much effort we just put into translating a name from japanese to english all I have to say is:

This conversation is funny!

Ekae wa omoshiroi desu ne

let me know if I spelled english converation in romaji correctly or not I keep thinking its diferent. I probably said something along the lines of this conversation is fun rather than funny... :lol:
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Re: Handwritten kanji

Postby rljapan on Sun Apr 05, 2009 10:15 pm

Derek-san, Oji-Yama no Oji! :lol:

Konnichiwa!

To say:
"This English conversation is funny!"...

Kono Eikaiwa wa omoshiroi!

Eikaiwa = "English Conversation"

The Ei bit refers to "English" and Kaiwa is "conversation"

Nihongo kaiwai = "Japanese Conversation" :idea:
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Re: Handwritten kanji

Postby DemonicDerek on Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:08 pm

rljapan wrote:Derek-san, Oji-Yama no Oji! :lol:

Konnichiwa!

To say:
"This English conversation is funny!"...

Kono Eikaiwa wa omoshiroi!

Eikaiwa = "English Conversation"

The Ei bit refers to "English" and Kaiwa is "conversation"

Nihongo kaiwai = "Japanese Conversation" :idea:


W00t! I knew English Conversation... Just I butchered the spelling... >.>
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